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Why do people hate us so much??

A few days ago, I was browsing on Craigslist, and I came across this ad…  Just read this ad!  What has our industry done to make some people despise us so much??  Perhaps some very ignorant and perhaps rude agents have called these people in the past…. But the first part of their ad was written with such venom, it makes you wonder!!

http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/rfs/557283448.html

I’d love to hear comments…. Have you ever converted a FSBO like this into a listing?  Perhaps some agent in SLC who works that area will see this as a challenge, and go after them!

 

UPDATE:

Thanks to Toni Ellis for saving this listing - Since it was flagged, you can't see it at the craigslist link.  You can see it at Toni's link:

http://saltlakecityfsbo.homestead.com/

Thanks for all your comments... 

 

156 commentsJonelle Simons • February 05 2008 12:26PM

Comments

Wow, that's funny... And the funniest part is that she probably cut her chances on attracting real buyers jut by writing so much venomous drivel before ever getting to the part about her house. I can certainly understand the frustration if she's being hounded by agents but she's letting her frustration get in the way of her goals.
Posted by Shannon Jones - Long Beach CA Real Estate (The Shannon Jones Team) over 4 years ago
Wow, that is the rudest thing I've ever seen! Not only would I not want to list her house, I would be scared of her if I was a buyer! 
Posted by Kristi Edwards (Keller Williams Realty) over 4 years ago

Yeah, I work with a lot of FSBO's and that is actually not bad. They know agents may scan the FSBO ads and they do get calls all day many rude and to the point, list with us calls, you can't sell it. I have had much worse, maybe I will post some of th emails and letters I have had from trying to help people.

Ross Quintana - Team Quintana Real Estate

Spokane Washington Real Estate Experts

Posted by Spokane Washington Real Estate - Ross Quintana 509-362-1966 (Team Quintana Real Estate - Keller Williams Realty Lic#3015) over 4 years ago

She must have been contacted by a lot of desparate buyers' agents.  That's too bad! 

Chris

Posted by Chris Fisher (Your Virtual Assistant) over 4 years ago

It is to bad that agents have all been taught the same old worn out concepts that homeowners are fed up with and this ad show that.  I never cold call homeowners because I don't need to.  I have developed what I call the fuel to my business to make sure that I never have to cold call.

I know for my self that I hate solicitations and that is all the agents are doing.  I don't blame the homeowner one bit for getting so mad.  Let me ask you if you are a professional then why are you cold calling.  When was the last time your dentist called you to come in for your check up.  Never.

Posted by B b over 4 years ago
I had a FSBO simply put a sentence at the END of his craigslist house ad saying "Agents protected at 3% , but please no more solicitation calls. If I list with an agent it will be with Sidney Dikeman" and the calls slowed if not stopped. Can't blame the agents for trying, but we need to be respectful as well.
Posted by Sidney Dikeman (Atlanta Communities Real Estate Brokerage) over 4 years ago
That was entertaining, thanks for sharing.
Posted by Chris Frantz (Hernando County Real Estate - Exit Success Realy) over 4 years ago
I wonder if perhaps 'reverse' psychology isn't at play here? I mean, just think of how many agents have accessed her ad, and just might have clients for her house? I mean, she IS offering a Buyer's Agent commission!...
Posted by Rich Jacobson Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker (Keller Williams West Sound Realty) over 4 years ago
I wonder if these people checked out http://www.parentrelocationcouncil.org/?  PRC's existence is to help the consumers distinguish between the true professionals and the wanna-be's.  There are some links to anti-agent blogs that are truly eye opening.  Thanks for the post Jonelle!
Posted by Chris Pollinger (Real Estate Business Advisors) over 4 years ago
I thought it was GREAT!  People should respect a FSBO's right to sell their home.  Lots of agents watch the same worn out VCR tapes and DVD's and regurgitate the same worn out "pickup lines".  The public is SICK OF IT. 

Good for them. 
Posted by Jessica Horton Realty | Jessica Horton Realtor (Keller Williams Realty Atlanta Partners) over 4 years ago

Well, it is her house. She doesn't want to be pestered. I'm not sure that translates into hate. Some folks think they can do it better, more economically on their own, should that be news to us?  That's one of the great things about this country- freedom to own property, freedom to choose. And just becasue she wants to save some cash, and doesnt want to be pestered (do you?) does not make her rude.

Posted by Nottingham Real Estate Group over 4 years ago
I had never seen the prc site before.  thanks Chris.
Posted by Lynn Franklin (Coldwell Banker Ponderosa) over 4 years ago

Fsbos want your help, When you can show that its not about the commission but about the net, the FSBO will work with you.

The question I ask is " If I can net you more money than you could by selling it on your own, would you consider working together?

Posted by Brett Noel (Keller Williams) over 4 years ago

It would be funny i fthis FSBO was in Sales

Posted by Brett Noel (Keller Williams) over 4 years ago

I guess they want to hire an agent?  lol  It may have been rude as written, but I know I would be sick of getting phone calls if 20 window salesmen called me.  I think that is why the do not call list came about. When I started in the business, we were all trained to make hundreds of cold calls which I could never do. Everytime I tried, I would remember how much I hated it when I was in the middle of doing something and the phone rang with someone trying to sell me something. There has to be a better way

Posted by Linda Tremblay, Associate Broker Bucks County, PA Real Estate Services (Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc, PA License #AB065488) over 4 years ago

I have read so many "scripts" that are almost identical and I can see how a FSBO would get tired of hearing the same thing over and over.  I bet many could recite the scripts to you.  I have contacted FSBO and always am up front and honest about wanting to know what is available in the area, both by owner and listed by realtors.  Everyone, so far, has been open to talking about their home. 

This homeowner is tired of the calls just to list their home, but certainly is open to paying a commission if you bring a buyer.  That means they do understand the value of an agent in bringing a buyer for them.  I would not try to convert this FSBO, but would love to bring a buyer to them.

Posted by Calvin Neely (Holliday Realtors) over 4 years ago

I think I'd go nuts if I had to talk with 20 agents in one day, who just wanted to list my house and know that there's probably more where that came from.  Some agents are very aggressive and don't take NO for an answer.  That's a real shame! 

Why would you want to call on this fsbo?  They stated they have family in real estate.  Let them have their peace and move on to someone who desires your help.

They probably scared off some buyers too.  I would have written a small agent disclaimer at the bottom of the ad and then turned on my answering machine or voice mail.

Posted by Dan Weis - CincinnatiRealEstateGuy.com (Comey & Shepherd Realtors) over 4 years ago
Yes, her tirade was excessive, but her point was valid.  The ad itself was pretty good for a FSBO, don't you think?  I hate solicitations, too, but I just say " I'm not interested, take me off your list, goodbye."
Posted by Virginia Hepp - Mesquite NV MLS - Sun City Mesquite - 55+ Buyer Representative (ERA - Mesquite NV Homes For Sale) over 4 years ago

On the one hand, she does sound pretty upset. When we have clients who want to go after FSBOs, I try to steer them clear of calling the home owners.  This is exactly why - because at least 20 other agents are also calling that same person about the same thing - list with us.  It makes them very frustrated and ready to go postal on someone.  We don't want that "someone" to be one of our clients!

On the other had, this goes right back to watching how you say what you say.  This is in print, going across the internet to thousands of people every day.  How many agents will get the wrong impression and not want to expose their buyers to this type of attitude?  There are ways to get your point across without alienating everyone around you.

This is also a good plug for original marketing.  Calling doesn't work with FSBOs.  Think of something unique and original to get their attention and to stand out from the rest of the agents beating a path to their door.

~Renae

Posted by Renae Bolton ~ Marketing 4 Realtors (Marketing 4 Realtors) over 4 years ago
Yes, the tirade is off-putting, but it is in response to teh many Realtors who will not take no for answer.  That said, I wouldn't be dying to take my buyer there.  People need to realize that with so many houses on the market, you need to put off as few folks as possible, and the average consumer just doesn't get that.  You attract more people with honey...
Posted by Jodie Miller, Realtor, KW, Pasadena (Keller Williams Realty) over 4 years ago
This is why I don't make these kind of calls myself.  I don't agree with her rudeness...however she is probably very frustrated.  Do any of us like being called at home?  I don't think so.   
Posted by Barbara Dougher Realtor 2008 Rookie of the Year (Coldwell Banker United East Texas Division) over 4 years ago

Wowza. I loooove what Sidney Dikeman had to say. If I was selling my home by owner, that's exactly what I'd put on there...even though I've never met Sidney!

Yeah it's unfortunate that a few bad apples ruin it for the good 'uns.

Posted by Joey Aszterbaum (Jolynne Photography) over 4 years ago
I wonder what she tells the mortgage people who call her up and want to put their sign in her yard, maker her flyers or offer call capture?  I bet she would say no but wouldn't it be funny if she said yes and then finds out that the loan officer is also a licensed real estate agent?
Posted by Eddie Reed, MRMS, CRMS (Guaranty Bank and Trust Co.) over 4 years ago
My guess is the approach of the agents who called...and the sellers lack of any real buyer calls has led him/her to have a large chip on the shoulder....do not take it personally.
Posted by Jeffrey DiMuria www.SouthBrevardBeachHomes.com (Coldwell Banker Sun Land Realty) over 4 years ago
I understand why she did this, but it is pretty rude and there are so many more ways to say something more politely - pretty weird:)  I don't prospect with FSBOs AT ALL - To me a FSBO sign means: "I hate Courtney Cooper"  - and I am not having it! lol :) Thanks for the link!
Posted by Courtney Cooper 206-850-8841 (All Seattle Homes for Sale: CooperJacobs.com) over 4 years ago

He would be a peach to work with.

 Someone got that guy going, but I have seen it before where the guy hates the whole World for months then reaches out and needs help.

For the life of me I cannot fiqure that one out yet.

A number of years ago before the do not call list I was doing this cold call thing like it was going out of style.

I called a guy that was the meanest thing on Earth. Over the phone he would let me have it, and made me feel like pond scum.

Jonelle, It became a point where I would call the guy and he was talking about firearms, and sending me to Jail.

I got so mad at the guy that I called the guy and asked him before I went to jail can I at least see the home so I know what I was calling about seeing I would have all kinds of time to think about it.

He laughed, said a bunch of nasty words, and said you come over here right now.

I went over and the place just reaked of pot.

The guy smiled at me, list his house with me, and i sold it.

What is that noise all about? I can understand where that guy was rude on Craigslist, but ya, he wa extreme.

Thanks for the memories, and I wonder what gets people to the point of all that energy.

Sincerely

Tom Braatz

 

 

Posted by Tom Braatz,Waukesha County Realtor Real Estate agent,Waukesha Cty WI Real Estate (Re/Max Realty Center 262-377-1459) over 4 years ago
Interesting...I wonder how many buyers get past the paragraph-length disclaimer to read about the house, which mentions "many photos" yet shows only one.  (Craigslist allows 4 drop in, more with HTML coding)
Posted by Audrey Hoffman, VoteAudrey (VoteAudrey blog) over 4 years ago

Sounds to me that agents did not observe the persons request to not be solicited for a listing, and so the advertiser is annoyed... I would be as well, if I were them, it would be like putting my phone number on the no call list, and then having people call who got my number from that list... just stupid...

Agents should read the ad, and if the seller is not interested in an agent to list the house, they should let that seller be, no? 

Posted by Rhode Island Real Estate -- Focus Professionals, Inc. over 4 years ago

That is so funny Courtney!!! That's what it means to me too. There were a group in my office and they were joking about sometimes there are FSBOs and other times they are FSBAs. We have to laugh at it and hope that we are the percentage of agents that are respected and taken seriously. It would be hard to be called 19 times in one day just to get the listing. I like working with people who know and love me. It is safer and I love the people I work with. 

Posted by Debbie Mounteer over 4 years ago
I've had Agents call me when I have withdrawn my own Personal Residence telling me they could do a better job of Marketing My Property than (ME). I think it is a business plan to try to get listings and I'm sure the FSBO is tired of Agents contacting them. (Desperate Times call for Desperate Measures)
Posted by Jane Wallace CRS, Denver Real Estate (PorchLight Real Estate Group) over 4 years ago
Jonelle - Wow, that woman sure was stressed. I do have to ask... if this FSBO knows so many real estate agents they why are they trying to do this on their own? 
Posted by Ryan Martin - Bellingham Commercial RE Broker (Windermere Real Estate / Whatcom Inc.) over 4 years ago
Jonelle, I would not worry about this. To me it seems that the new Realtors who don't have any business are pounding the pavement for deals.  In this case the person probably got so many phone calls.. Oh well when you place the info out their you better be willing to take the bad stuff to. People don't understand that.
Posted by Matthew J Blum - (retired from the business) over 4 years ago

It's obvious that her FSBO post was only churning out agents wanting to solicit her for the listing.  I didn't find it rude, or hateful. 

Prior to becoming a licensed Realtor(r) I went the FSBO route once.  It was then that I actually got a new-found respect for agents, because it was not easy to sell the house on my own.  But, nonetheless, I got BOMBARDED with calls from listing agents.

I would ask them why weren't they calling me with a buyer? 

Also, there's a Craigs List check box that posters select saying it's NOT okay to be solicited by commercial entities.  Agents seem to be disregarding that too.

Posted by Carla over 4 years ago

What she should have said is that I used to have several friends who are realtors. It shows how much she thinks of them. The reality is that you cannot work with everyone and this one isn't worth the time or aggravation. Some FSBO's are very pleasant and appreciate any help you offer, other's are like this and since she is not motivated to sell her house it most likely won't sell and that will be our fault too because took all of the good buyers.

On the sunny side I wouldn't mind a powder day at Brighton, I wonder if she has a spare room for the night?

Posted by Overland Park Real Estate and Homes for sale :: Michael Russell (Overland Park KS Realty Executives ) over 4 years ago

The seller is clearly frustrated. I would be also if I were interrupted 20 times by people proving they weren't listening to my instructions. 

That being said, the prospects (or Buyers Agents) that get past her first tirade/paragraph will give her a run for her money! 

My thought is, if you have a buyer client for the property, call.  If not, chase the folks who want to work with you.  It's a better use of your time and energy.

Posted by Laurie Logan-South Central WI Real Estate (Prudential Community Realty, Broker Associate) over 4 years ago
Obviously, a side affect a FSBO did not count on when trying to sell a home.  The phone would ring.  Welcome to the business world.  Once you put your name out there you have to deal with the consequences.  In this case Realtors looking for business.
Posted by Jimmy McCall "The Ex-Mortgage Consultant" (TheHappyCottage.com) over 4 years ago

Key phrase -- "Yesterday 20 agents called me on this ad." I'll venture to say that out of these 20 agents, they were calling to list the property because I'm sure there is more then enough inventory on the MLS to show buyers right now then chasing down FSBO's. (Of course, you really have to have buyers to begin with.)

Nobody says that the person placing the ad hates real estate agents. Just don't bother them unless you really have a buyer that is interested. I'd venture to say out of those 20 phone calls, they heard the "I have buyers" script 19 out of the 20 phone calls.

Posted by Las Vegas Real Estate - Summerlin Homes Paul Francis - (702) 592.3058 (Prudential Americana Group - REALTORS) over 4 years ago

Come on!  All of us have something we are peeved about when it happens to us.  20 calls are a lot of calls and I can identify with that.  I get 20 or more calls or more myself daily. My opportunity is I don’t answer the phone or answer with the intent of playing joke and giving a lesson.

Calling people unsolicited is out of vogue.  It is one of the 80’s things.  Does it work certainly?  You have many million-dollar produces that are excellent on the telephone.  These people are pros and have hard shells to crack and are task driven. 

They are equipped to handle abuse and vengeance from irritated customers. 

Now lets look at it from the customer’s perspective.  In more cases the caller was interrupted in what they were doing to answer your call.  If I have no need for the services of a Realtor or lender and I keep getting calls all day long interruption my concentration or thoughts, I get little accomplished.  Everyone don’t use call screening.

Call screening is for wannabe real estate agents and corrupt loan originators.  No one else needs it and they are the only to use it.  Can’t take that call, he might ask me the interest rate again or to send a Marketing update.

We have made people repel us I have even heard messages on voice mails that specifically identified real estate people and loan originators to “go to hell”.  That behavior was not something that we can feel as if we had no influence in producing.

It is like most things in life, we burn them out be over abuse.  The same reason we institute laws, someone want to cheat, beat or trick the natural way of doing things.

As long as this or any other profession go around looking for someone else to blame for the perception of clients and consider their reactions to industry behavior, there will be a credibility gap.  I see it a wide and continually splitting unless the quality of people entering the business is upgraded. 

As long as there are hustler and shysters in the field to take advantage and victimize people, you should expect to receive this type of rage in confronting some people.  If you have chosen to market in ways that lead to these types of responses, and you have not learned to ignore or overcome them, you income potential will be limited.
Posted by Find a Notary Public | needAnotary (QEC Internet Services) over 4 years ago
By the time a reader gets through her angry outburst, he or she would give up on the house information.  I certainly would avoid such an individual, because my antena goes up when I run into angry people and I stay away.  I prefer to represent sellers or buyers who respect me and see the benefit in working with me.  This is why I do not go looking for FSBOs.  Actually,I avoid them.  I find that their attitude is that they know better regardless of my experience, education and connections.  There are a lot of fine individuals out there, why not associate with them, and enjoy our life and work.
Posted by Simone Bercu, Montgomery Co, MD Real Estate, CRS, GRI, e-PRO, Assoc. Broker (Weichert, Realtors) over 4 years ago
Definately an interesting post. I do not think they hate realtors, they simply believe that they can sell their house themselves and net more money then if they hired a professional. Studies show they will net 17% less. If you are up for it, perhaps stop by their home if you are in the neighborhood and let them know you were in the neighborhood previewing homes for clients and you wanted to include theirs in the homes you evaluated. Certainly, once in front of them, whether to list the home or find out about the home, the conversation will certainly be different!
Posted by Josh Ross (RE/MAX PROS) over 4 years ago

It's too bad that people hounded that poor woman to death.  It helps to give us a really bad name. 

Posted by Emily Lowe - Nashville TN Realtor (The Lipman Group Sotheby's International Realty) over 4 years ago
WOW... They are really upset with Real Estate Agents. So blunt and right to the point. I could only imagine how the phone conversations got after the 10th call. lol Jessica Cordell
Posted by Jessica Cordell (Century 21 Hendershot Realty) over 4 years ago

Jonelle:

FSBO And Expires are two of the most visible candidates that agents have to recognize a viable person that has a real estate need. I had just the opposite happen to me. I contacted a FSBO that was local and when I contacted them they said that I was the first agent they spoke with and that they had been on the market for three months. Now I did not call I went in person. I got the listing sold it and the couple purchase another home here in this area. So, I am a great believer in going in person. I also, do not think that you ever have to much business.

I would write her a very nice note or email and thank her for being so candid about her not wanting to work with and agent. Always display your professionalism.

Lorraine

Posted by Lorraine or Loretta Kratz-Certified Negotiation Consultants (Crescent Moon Realty, Inc. & Land N Sea Auctions.) over 4 years ago

I guess I'm an odd duck here.  I saw frustration, but I didn't really see anything I would classify as over the top rudeness.  One of my clients that was an expired told me that she got 143 calls in two days after her home's listing expired.  Agents were arrogant, rude and incredulous that she didn't want to talk with them at that time.  She got to the point that she didn't want to answer the phone.  Instead of listening and having a conversation WITH her, they used scripts and talked TO her. 

I listened to her issues and won the listing.  

I hope that the agents in SLC leave the poor lady alone.  I would also bet that if an enterprising agent previewed the home, and listened to the gripes this person (please note, person, not FSBO) has, they might actually walk away with a decent shot at the listing.  

The question that needs to be answered first is how realistic is the price? 

Posted by Lane Bailey - REALTOR & Car Guy (Century 21 Results Realty) over 4 years ago

I agree, the days of the 80's video cassettes are out the window. If you want to contact FSBO's find another way.

Posted by Karisa Mickels (Windermere Glenn Taylor Real Estate) over 4 years ago

Aggressive cold calling is detrimental to any profession. If the ad states that they do not want to be solicited by agents for the listing, it should be honored.

Posted by Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Wayne B. Pruner, Realtor, GRI (Oregon First) over 4 years ago
Sadly, we are still viewed by many people as having the used car salesmen mentality.
Posted by Kay Bennett Your Cookeville Real Estate Connection! (First Realty Company) over 4 years ago
Jonelle-Some people reflect on bad experiences, while others are ignorant to what we can offer. Don't take it personal.
Posted by Mark Horan "The Resident Chef" (Resident Team Realty, LLC) over 4 years ago

She sounds as though she has been fending off a lot of calls from agents and as she said, it makes her sound like a "wrench". 

 I too have had to fend off a great deal off calls, not from real estate agents but from sales people selling services to real estate agents and I know that as soon as I answer the phone and hear the beginning of the sales pitch knowing that this sales person is not going to go away easily without trying to make me feel as if I'm a failure for not buying their product.  By the time I get off the phone I feel upset. 

There is a human being behind the label of FSBO with their own reasons for putting their property on the market.  In this case, she has friends and family who are realtors that she can go to if needed.  Real Estate is a "Me Too" business, more now than ever. 

In my opinion, we need to have compassion for people and try to undestand what motivates a homeowner to try to sell a property on their own instead of treating them like they are idiots for doing so.  From what I read, this woman was at the point of screaming because of all the agent calls she was getting.  As I read at the bottom of her post she described her property beautifully. 

As Realtors, do we appreciate being lumped into a catagory?  Of course not!  We need to offer the same respect and courtesy to others that we would like to have ourselves.   

 

Posted by Chrystina Tovani over 4 years ago
I think she makes it very clear.......... and I bet you she is still getting calls from agents that don't read......... sort of like all the politicians calling me on my cell phone which is on the do not call list
Posted by Joe Adams (Major Mortgage USA/Branch Manager) over 4 years ago
I thought the ad was just fine. Obviously this person has been irritated to no end by REALTORS(R) calling soliciting. I'd get real tired of it too and I appreciate folks that are honest about how they feel. It wasn't rude in the least just straight forward.I would love to work with them. I think I'll call:)
Posted by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc over 4 years ago
Wow! If I was a buyer I would stay clear of her. Sounds like a problem transaction already. If she does not want to take phone calls she should hire an agent to take them for her :)
Posted by Jim Houlihan (Coldwell Banker) over 4 years ago

I would say based on the picture of her "great house which would make an amazing ski vacation/home " I think she might want to consider an Agent :)  and maybe a professional photographer LOL. any how I know people have getting cold called I sure do at all hours of the day and night. 

 Good Luck FSBO Lady,.........

 

 

I guess Really its Good Luck to this ladies friends that are agents when she comes Knocking :)

Chris in Thermopolis Wy.

Posted by Chris Fuller Your Realtor in Thermopolis Wyoming (Properties West, INC. ) over 4 years ago
It will be interesting to see this property in 6 months or a year to see if a REALTOR represents her.  REALTORS (professional) provide an invaluable service to their clients.  With the market challenges a great opportunity exists to strengthen the positioning of the REALTOR as a trusted advisor/consultant.
Posted by Scott Wooters over 4 years ago
I wasn't particularly offended by this FSBO's ad...she just sounded tired and worn out.  If you've got a buyer call her if not then don't.  There will always be agents who use high pressure tactics and there will always be people who are offended by them.  It's just too bad for that the rest of us get tagged with that type of reputation. 
Posted by Kathy Fisher Sells Lexington TN homes! 731.845.3413 (Five Star Real Estate Services) over 4 years ago
I wasn't offended by the ad, he should have sued the agents under a "DO NOT CALL" statute!  They were idiots.  In this saturated market only an idiot would be calling FSBOS for business.  An established agent should be working their SOI, expireds and pressing the flesh!   You annoy a person like that that has already put agents on notice...he will sue to prove a point! 
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 4 years ago
I've had pretty good luck contacting fsbo's through Craigslist, but I've also had legitimate buyers.  This person must have gotten one call too many to make them so upset. 
Posted by Ed Vogt, Grandville, MI Midwest Properties (Midwest Properties of Michigan) over 4 years ago

I don't think it was rude at all.  If I were a FSBO being hounded by agents wanting to list my house I'd get mad too.

She did go over the top, but I don't blame her.  I will not, will not, will not harass someone.  I have thought about calling people with Craigslist ads to try and get them to list...and then I put myself in their place.

Lots of "professionals" would call me a wuss of an agent and then predict that I will never amount to much of an agent - but you know what? When consumers vent about rude and annoying real estate agents, *I won't be one of them.*

She is offering to pay a buyer's agent - which is very nice.  I would probably call her so that I could see the house and give her my card, and then tell her I'd certainly keep it in mind if I had a buyer for it.

Posted by Karen Rice | Lake Wallenpaupack Homes, WLE Hideout Masthope Hemlock Farms Homes (WEICHERT, REALTORS® Paupack Group ) over 4 years ago
I fail to see the hate as well. Her diatribe is rather honest. She does not need a listing agent, she needs a buyer but would cooperate for 3%. Her phone or email is buzzing constantly. Maybe she's tending to a sick relative or under extreme job pressure. 
Posted by Blogger To Be Named Later over 4 years ago
Jonelle,  I can appreciate why some folks simply do not like Realtors.  Remember, some agent training classes/seminars out there teach that if you are going to be a success you have to get in someones' face until they sign something.  When you combine that with our fair share of crappy agents it starts to make sense.  Other professions get pretty much the same reaction !
Posted by Bill Gillhespy Fort Myers Beach Realtor Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos (16 Sunview Blvd) over 4 years ago
Good for her.  I really don't see a lunatic.  I see someone livid that the real estate community has been calling with an agenda, in direct opposition to her own- right or wrong, her choice- and she is making clear her knowledge, and disgust, at ignoring her clear FSBO postion.  How would we feel if FSBO buyers harrassed our listings on a regular basis?  Just my opinion.  Thank you for a thought-provoking post- well done!
Posted by Laurie Mindnich at Options Realty over 4 years ago
I don't think that that person hated realtors as much as she hated being bothered when she was trying to sell her own house. A person who hates agents wouldn't offer the 3%...I have dealt with that person before.  They want the buyer to pay 3% on top of the price of the house if the buyer "insist" on using an agent.
Posted by Mary Bowen, The Woodlands Texas Real Estate & Relocation Specialist (Coldwell Banker United, Realtor) over 4 years ago
The thought that comes to my mind if I am a buyer is "this seller sounds agitated; will they be difficult to deal with if I try to buy this house?"
Posted by Kevin McGrath RE/MAX BRAVO (RE/MAX BRAVO - Fredericksburg/Spotsylvania) over 4 years ago
I can't help but feel a little bit sorry for her. It seems as though she is extremely frustrated. It will be difficult for her to make her way through a transaction with so much angst!
Posted by Cherimie Crane, www.BeaufortTime.com (Cherimie Crane & Associates, Ballenger Realty) over 4 years ago

Most of the FSBOs I contact on Craigslist I do through e-mail because of the Do Not Call list.  Most respond to me with info on the property.  They know I am a broker because my e-mail signature identifies me, as it should.  And I don't ask for the listing, just for more information on the property.  They are advertising on the list to save money but bottom line they want to sell their property and would welcome my buyers and most will pay 3%.  Of course I know I will be doing most of the work for the same commission unless it is a very savvy homeowner.

Posted by Susan Buchanan over 4 years ago
It seemed a bit over the top to me... I think it couldve been put in a sentence...   I definatly think she will also put off buyers by this as well... No one would want to deal with a person like that.  And I agree with whoever said it above, I feel bad for the agents she will be turning to WHEN she decides to list!
Posted by Kim Carpenter-Lake Winnipesaukee REALTOR -Lake Winnipesaukee Real Estate, NH (Coldwell Banker) over 4 years ago
I flagged it just out of meaness.
Posted by Michael Creel (InActive Agent) over 4 years ago
I'm afraid I can empathize with this person.  Getting unsolicited calls is why the DNC list was invented and calling a FSBO with a phantom client is the way we're trained to circumvent it.  I personnally won't do it.  I kind of feel the same way about the lead generation calls that I get.
Posted by Don Stern ~ Greater Baton Rouge Real Estate (Realty Executives South Louisiana) over 4 years ago
If every other agent is calling FSBO's, why don't you differentiate yourself and do something different?
BROWNIES and a PERSONAL CARD will get their attention, I can assure you.
You still have time to register for our tele-seminar TONIGHT to learn some awesome marketing techniques that will really get their attention.
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Posted by Philip Hulme over 4 years ago

As we all know, many sellers think we all make millions. Little do they know the work behind the scenes we do.

Posted by Richard Lecinski (Long Realty Company) over 4 years ago

I really want to say that was funny but that would be mean. :-) I don't think Rachel hates agents. I think she hates being called all day long basically being told she has no idea what she's doing and should hire someone who does.

I wonder if Rachel knows that craigslist can "accomidate" her anonymity by not having to post her email address or telephone number to get inquiries about her home.

Posted by Toni Hogan, Realtor® Renters Choice Realty (The Smart Choice for Renters) over 4 years ago

I clicked on the link "This posting has been flagged for removal".

Obviously I haven't read the article but if I was a FSBO I'd take advantage of agents calling me. I'd pick their brain because they know something I don't: how to attract buyers.

 

Posted by Andrea Mills YourSebringRealtor 863-202-0729 (ERA Advantage Realty) over 4 years ago

The link no longer works. The Post has been flagged for removal... I am really curious as to what was said!How could a "rant" be an ad on Craigslist? Was she advertising her own home but ranting about real estate agents in the process? Interesting...

Posted by Debbie DiFonzo - United Country VIP Realty, SW Missouri over 4 years ago
Jonelle,  I'm disappointed that the link no longer works too... 
Posted by Debbie Summers - MoveToLakeMary.com or 407-758-1020 (Charles Rutenberg Realty - Orlando, Florida) over 4 years ago

Real estate agents can be vultures.  That is sad state on a noble profession.  I've said it and I'll repeat it here, agents are what give this business a black eye.  It is all about respect.  If I blew up your cellphone 20 times in a day with something you were apparently not interested in hearing, you would be a little beside yourself also.

Be more creative in your marketing and perform activities that create credibility and not resentment. 

Posted by Find a Notary Public | needAnotary (QEC Internet Services) over 4 years ago

Flagged for removal.... LOL

I started  FSBO program once.... this is how it works:

For free, I provide flyers and stuff and my realtor partner provides comps for appropriate pricing.

Borrower can try to sell until hell freezes over, but the idea is that they will cave in and use the realtor who provided the comps.

I approched several realtors with this plan and was told that I should stay out of the realtor business and stick to loans..... ;-)

Says a lot about the mindset of some realtors....

Posted by Tom Burris | Texas Mortgage Dallas Mortgage FHA (DallasLoanGuy.com (214) 763-4629 cell/text/nights/weekends) over 4 years ago
I am so disappointed!  It's been flagged really wanted to see it.
Posted by Dick Betts (Dick Betts National Speaker) over 4 years ago
When I saw that it had been flagged I went back and saved it as a pdf. I guess because it was cached I could still get it. Here it is. Salt Lake City FSBO. Jonell feel free to use this link in your post.
Posted by Toni Hogan, Realtor® Renters Choice Realty (The Smart Choice for Renters) over 4 years ago

Last week an article came out in Advertising Age bashing realtors.  It’s title: Pay Heed to What Realtors Don't Say in Their Latest Pitch, These Agents Will Wallow in Conflict Like Pigs in a Sty for Their 7% Cut.  Ouch!

The article went on to lambast a recent National Association of Realtors (of which I am a proud member) TV ad talking about the value of home ownership.  The author of the article admits, though, “There’s no quibbling with what she [the actress in the TV ad] says.”  So what’s the fuss?

The author says the fuss (and it is quite a fuss) is about what the actress in the ad doesn’t say.  (Okay. . . ) The author says that while it’s true that now may be a great time to buy, the flipside of that is that it’s a bad time to sell.  And it’s all real estate agents’ fault.

If I come across a bit defensive, it’s because I am.  Sure, there are shady real estate agents out there (though all National Association of Realtors members adhere to a strict code of ethics) but most of us just want to help people buy and sell homes.  Yes, it’s how I make a living – how I put food on the dinner table, but that doesn’t mean I try to take advantage of people just to get my commission.

(Hey, we don’t fault doctors for making a living helping make us better – and some of them make quite a living!)

In fact, for me and the vast majority of my colleagues, we work really hard to help our clients.  We bend over backwards to make sure that our clients get the absolute best deal.  It’s partly because we care and partly because doing right by our clients is how we stay in business.

For example, most of my business comes from referrals from past clients.  If I don’t get the best deal possible for my clients, I don’t get new ones.  It’s as simple as that.

It’s true that now is not the ideal time to sell.  I’ve said before that if you don’t have to sell now, wait.  But some people can’t wait.  In that case, I work hard to get my clients the best deal possible given the current market.

And let’s remember that the market has fallen in the past year, but is still way above where it was before the boom.  So if you bought a house in 2002, you’re probably still sitting on a fair amount of equity, and could still sell your house today for more than you paid for it.

Nevertheless, when you’re looking for a real estate agent, shop around.  Ask prospective agents for references – and call those references.  A shady agent who has taken advantage of his clients before won’t be able to provide good references.  Also, look for objective measures of a real estate agent’s trustworthiness.  For example, as I mentioned, all members of the National Association of Realtors have to abide by a strict code of ethics, or we’re booted out. 

The fact of the matter is that trust is critical in any agent/client relationship.  Buying or selling a house can be one of the most stressful experiences we go through in life.  And for most of us, it’s the biggest financial move we make.  On top of that, you’ll probably be spending a lot of time with your real estate agent as you buy or sell your house (someone likened it to a mini-marriage).  So working with someone who you trust – and like – is critical.

If you don’t already know a real estate agent who you trust, ask around with your friends and co-workers.  Some might have horror stories, but many will be able to refer you to a great agent.

For more, visit www.MyPhoenixMLSBlog.com

Posted by Bob Stahl (Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 4 years ago

People hate us for exactly what Bob is doing: constantly selling and promoting themselves.  I wasn't able to read the link since it was flagged for removal, but agents don't need to be so "in your face" with their marketing. 

Posted by Melina Tomson, M.S. Principal Broker/Owner (Tomson Burnham, llc Licensed in the State of Oregon) over 4 years ago

The article was removed by the time I tried to see it, but I feel that Realtors  as a profession really need to communicate the value that they bring to a transaction.  So many people see us as just "sticking a sign in the yard" or "just writing a contract".  It is up to us to communicate our professionalism and value. Here in Weatherford, Mineral Rights are a big issue that alone can cost or benefit clients thousands of dollars.  A good Realtor will make sure that that is addressed correctly.  That is just one way that we are worth our "big paycheck".  Make sure your client knows that you are working for them.  FSBOs are tricky. Most of the time they are FSBOs because they don't want to pay commission.  However, NAR shows that 94% of all transactions last year were done by Realtors.  We must be bringing something of value to the table.

 

Posted by Debbie Copeland (RE/MAX Trinity) over 4 years ago

We Real Estate Professionals need to restore ourselves as honest,hardworking and people with character because the public thinks of us as the total opposite. Its sad that some people make it bad for the rest of the good real estate professionals who adhere to strict code of ethics and try to obey all federal,state and local laws. I hope I am still here when the public doesn't perceive us as greedy and unselfish people. Great post.

Posted by Lanre "The Real Estate Farmer"Folayan Buy a home in Washington DC (EXIT Advance Realty-Washington DC House for sale) over 4 years ago
Man, I always miss the linked posts. They are always flagged for removal by the time I get to them. I bet it was a good one. 
Posted by Christy Powers - Pooler, Savannah Real Estate Agent (Keller Williams Coastal Area Partners) over 4 years ago
I thought that was actually pretty reasonable. Either call to find out about the house, or don't call. The seller is not saying No Agents even- so is willing to work with someone representing a Buyer. Seems ok to me.
Posted by Sarah Nopp over 4 years ago

Jonelle,

I don't get the impression the poster hated Realtors, he just seemed extremely annoyed, and I don't blame him. If we, as a profession, don't want the consumers to have a low opinion of us, then we must stop the hounding. Imagine putting a for sale sign on your used car and getting 20 phone calls and house visits a day from car dealers hounding you with every angle imaginable to let them sell your car? Wouldn't you be annoyed?

Sandy

Posted by Sandy Nelson Realtor® Olympia Real Estate (Riley Jackson Real Estate Inc.) over 4 years ago
Hi Jonelle, I wouldn't say the seller hates us, he/she does have family & friends that are sale associates, but probably more so fed up from being hounded by sales reps trying to get the business. I guess he/she felt they had to get his/her point across as best he/she could.
Posted by Anonymous over 4 years ago
That was funny! I think I like her already. The house sounds great too. I show homes that are FSBO often with one party shows. They are usually pretty good deals for the buyer since you would of course knock off three percent of what you offer. No sense making the buyer pay for all that marketing and advertising that's not there. :) I'm not getting the hate vibe off of that, but I think the "not desperate to sell line" might turn off some buyers. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by Anonymous over 4 years ago
Hi Jonelle, I wouldn't say the seller hates us, he/she does have family & friends that are sale associates, but probably more so fed up from being hounded by sales reps trying to get the business. I guess he/she felt they had to get his/her point across as best he/she could.
Posted by Eugene Jones (Weichert Realtors) over 4 years ago

I read the post. I missed your point. I don't see any hate. I only see someone that is tired of people ignoring her wishes.

I sent her the following note.

Hi,   Apparently, your post on Craig's List ruffled feathers. Whether you realize it or not, you ad has been shared on many boards. It is usually accompanied by an agent complaining about how they are viewed.   It seems that they read your ad and don't comprehend a word that you share. It seems that their angst over your ad has created some sort of veil that blinds them to simple english. I think you stated your case very well. I don't doubt that you have been badgered and cajoled and had your life made miserable by agents that think your statements refer to everyone but them.   I applaud you for offering 3% to an agent that brings a buyer. I appreciate your willingness to allow agents to preview your home. I hope you understand that there are a few of us left that do respect the wishes of the public.   I just wanted to share those thoughts and wish you much success in the sale of the property.   John MacArthur

What part of the english language is so hard to understand? Agents bring this upon themselves.

Posted by John MacArthur Licensed Maryland/DC Realtor (Frankly Real Estate) over 4 years ago
It's funny what money can do. It's everyone's right to try to list and sell a home alone. I know... I did it very long ago. It made me wish I had an agent. Now I am one. It's frightening what can happen when the unexperienced attempts to do what, to many, appears to be an easy job.
Posted by Chuck Willman, Arizona Realtor® 480.292.0600 (Gentry Realty) over 4 years ago
Agree with the comment above. Even a buyer could easily end up being scared. Precisely one of the reasons people need agents, so they do not have to deal with owners.
Posted by Benjamin Realty LLC over 4 years ago
I read the ad and didn't think it was a rant about agents in general, just at those who pestered her.  The seller offered a coop fee which didn't seem hateful to me.  Put yourself in the seller's shoes just for one moment, and you'll probably feel frustration, not hate. 
Posted by Yolanda Hoversten | Broker | O'Fallon, Illinois Real Estate (Prudential One Realty Centre) over 4 years ago

I started to read the comments after I read the ad.  I had to keep going back to re-read the ad because I thought I was missing something.  I read it about six or seven times, I’m not joking, I thought I was cracking up.  Then I thought it couldn’t be the same ad the comments were about.  Then I skimmed the rest of the comments and read John MacArthur’s comment. 

OK, I’m not crazy.  I agree with John.  I see a very frustrated person, who is feeling like she is being a “wrench” because she is getting the calls she clearly stated she wasn’t interested in receiving. 

I don’t think “I am getting SUPER annoyed” is hateful. 

I feel bad for her having to spend so much energy trying not to lose it when these rude, evidently unable to read, people call her. 

She wrote a whole BIG paragraph and some people still don’t get it? 

(sorry, I had three things come up this week that all I could do was look at the situation and think ‘no wonder people hate REALTOR’s®')

OK, I’m done. 

Posted by Phoenix Arizona Real Estate ~ Doreen McPherson (Homesmart ~ Scottsdale ~ Tempe) over 4 years ago
I'm going to be very blunt.  Any Realtor who thinks that the person who wrote the ad is rude should get out of the Real Estate business.  It's not our job to harass people.  It's our job to provide a service that is so vital and relevant that people want to hire us, without our needing to make harassing phone calls.
Posted by Amber Smith (ERA Showcase Real Estate) over 4 years ago
She doesn't sound that hateful just frustrated. I can see where she is coming from if her phone is ringing off the hook and she specifically said no agents. 
Posted by Todd & Danielle Millar (Glenn Simon Inc.) over 4 years ago

It's a shame she had to start out her ad marketing her home that sounds very nice so abrasively. I honestly don't know how well it would be percieved from a possible buyer. They may think that she will be just as abrasive during their negotiations process. At least if she had a Realtor that specializes in marketing homes she may have had a beautiful postlets e-flyer that features more bright sunny pictures of her home other than showcasing her distaste of Realtors.

On behalf of the agents that have called her, they should not have tried to solicit a listing from it. However, it is hard to call for a client that is interested in the property when they haven't had a chance to preview the property or have access to all of the information we would have had on the MLS. She really should be glad that so many agents have called, most have a pool of buyers that they work with and I would definitely want to be working with them.

Posted by Charity Lane (O'Brien Realty) over 4 years ago

WEll, looks like Craigslist has more ethics than this guy ever dreamed of having. His rant was flagged for removal and I was unable to read it. I am grateful that someone was protecting me from reading this guys rant!

 

Posted by Grace deLuise-Koenig ABR. OTR Top Producer (Semonin Realtors) over 4 years ago
I thought that post was actually very good. They don't want to use an agent and are making that point very clear. If I was in her shoes, I would be frustrated too. And she is offering 3% to a realtor who brings a buyer. Many FSBOs won't even do that. Definitely made for an interesting read. Thanks for posting.
Posted by Karl Burger - Pensacola Real Estate News (ERA Beach Ball Realty) over 4 years ago
Honestly I would be annoyed also if i received 20 calls from agents trying to solicit their business. I probably would do the same...maybe not quite to that length. A short sentence at the beginning and end would do. It took away from her ad.
Posted by Craig Smith, Frederick MD Real Estate (Keller Williams Realty) over 4 years ago

These so called "gurus" of Real Estate have fostered and glorified what could reasonably be called extremely rude in any other circumstance. Those who follow these "in your face" tactics are the ones making the calls and understandably irritating the public and giving this industry a black eye!

Desperation and a desire to succeed at any cost is not a justification for rudeness and bad behavior! Enough said!

Posted by Blame Mike Ferry et al over 4 years ago
We can take this as a learning experience. She has obviously been answering a lot of phone calls with worn out sales pitches. It does not help her selling her house, but there is a valuable lesson here for Realtors. If you do what everyone else is doing you will get the same results. If you want to really make a difference, do something to be different.
Posted by Diane Testa over 4 years ago
Interesting, I don't think she wants agents contacting her unless they have a buyer.
Posted by Michael McEleney (Lepic-Kroeger, Realtors) over 4 years ago

I really like the marketing strategy this Notary Public uses to get agents business:

Real estate agents can be vultures.  That is sad state on a noble profession.  I've said it and I'll repeat it here, agents are what give this business a black eye.  It is all about respect.  If I blew up your cellphone 20 times in a day with something you were apparently not interested in hearing, you would be a little beside yourself also.

Be more creative in your marketing and perform activities that create credibility and not resentment. 

02/05/2008 08:10 PM by Ntsike Willis

Makes me glad I have my own Notary Seal!

Posted by Michael Creel (InActive Agent) over 4 years ago
Wow - I can see her frustration!  While I don't blame them at all for saying what they said they maybe should have put it at the end of the post.  Half way through I forgot that she was advertising a house.
Posted by Leesa L. Finley -Wake Forest NC REALTOR® Wake Forest NC & Raleigh NC Real Estate (Circa Properties - Your Wake Forest NC Homes Specialist) over 4 years ago
She should have simply set up an email address to use for the ad and have all interested parties send her an email, then sift through them. I wouldn't post my home or cell phone on craigslist regardless of what I'm selling. I mean, c'mon, you post realty for sale then are apalled that realtors would call? The nerve of those guys!
Posted by Michael Creel (InActive Agent) over 4 years ago

I just got a cold call while reading this.  lol

FSBOs are just tired of the same old approach.  Be origional.  Be of help.  Right now, they don't need a Real Estate Professional to sell their house.  As a matter of fact, let them market their house by theirselves, offer to be the Real Estate Professional to purchase a house.   And possibly, while you are helping them look for a home, they may just decide to hire you to sell their house. 

Have a Fabulous Real Estate Day!

Posted by Anona Large-Oak Ridge, TN Real Estate (Realty Executives Associates) over 4 years ago
I was expecting something much worse, especially after seeing it was flagged and removed.  She just sounded annoyed and serious, not mean.  Nothing compared to the letter that I found attached to the door of a FSBO I walked up to in my first year of Real Estate.  Everyone wanted me to get out there and hit the streets, knock on some doors and earn my wings, and scared as I was, I did it.  This particular home had a pick-up and several big old motorcycles parked in back.  I walked on up and saw the note which informed me that the occupants hated nothing more than salespeople, Realtors included and that nothing would make them happier than if I ignored the warning and knocked anyway because they would just love the excuse to come out and kick my ass.  After reading the note I turned tail and hurried back to my car, but it did give me a story that got a lot of laughs from my co-workers.
Posted by Beth Anderson ~ Tecumseh / Lenawee County ~Realtor (Goedert Real Estate) over 4 years ago
That was a funny article..But to answer your question. They hate us so much because we make the job look so seemless they think they have overpaid us. Much like Doctors and Lawyers without the degrees:-)
Posted by Lester Harris (SOLDier Realty) over 4 years ago

Oh My...... Did I read that right ?  If I were a consumer looking to buy a house.... Not sure I would call on this one..... WoW....

 

Posted by Roland Woodworth,SFR - Clarksville Short Sale and Foreclosure Resource (Keller Williams Realty) over 4 years ago
We run into people who just hate agents.  Just say "have a nice day" and walk away. 
Posted by ARDELL DellaLoggia (Sound Realty) over 4 years ago
In the end, and statistics prove it, a Realtor will bring an offer and they will like it! And accept it and the commission.
Posted by Kirk Williams (Private Venture Capital ) over 4 years ago
John - When the ad is reposted it might include a sentence about not mailing anything either :) Unless you mailed a buyer! That seller can't escape now....
Posted by Sandra Carlisle, DRE# 01364315 (First Team Estates) over 4 years ago
A lot of people have had bad experiences with real estate agents. They don't think that the fees they paid were worth what they got.
Posted by The Brewer Group Franklin TN Homes (Benchmark Realty) over 4 years ago

Hi Jonelle, What I see is someone who had the Caveat in her original ad .. NO Agents..and then was totally direspected and  violated. I  can see why she is annoyed.. People have the right to set boundaries and expect us to respect them..

Ginger

Posted by Wilmington NC Real Estate & Relocation~ Ginger Sala (Wilkinson & Associates, Wilmington NC) over 4 years ago
Violated?
Posted by Michael Creel (InActive Agent) over 4 years ago
There is no way to know, other than her post, that she has been contacted by so many agents.  We are just trying to make a living but we should not be hated as a whole by the world. 
Posted by Latonia Parks (Top Bragg Realty, Fayetteville NC, Home of the 82d ABN DIV) over 4 years ago
I thought there was a universal agreement by all people to hate the lawyers. How did we get in it?
Posted by Michael Creel (InActive Agent) over 4 years ago
I got my first apartment through craigslist, but there was lot of interference by landlords regarding small small issues.
I decided to change my apartment and begin the search for new apartment. This time I got registered  with westside rentals, and they stood up by my expectations . I am just living hassle free life for last 3 months and I am not getting any interference from landlords.
When it comes to pay $60 to get registered, initially people think that its not worth, but when one get registered with westside rental and enjoy their services, then people find it is great.Its really worth $60. I can bet it especially for the area near Los Angeles and santa-monica.They are really putting a lot of efforts to increase their customer's satisfaction on daily basis.
Westside rentals has really increased the number of apartments in their lists just few months before. They update their site atleast 2 times a day, adding new apartments and offers. Lots of landlords have signed up with them, making their lists more longer.
I am really tankful to westside rentals.
Posted by eric over 4 years ago
Many people feel that agents will not stop calling until they get the listing. Also, when we have a web site, we get a lot of emails asking about properties, but the sender refuses to give his/her name or phone numbers. I agree with Crhis that she must have been contacted by a lot of desparate buyers' agents and who know what kind of pressure they put on her to get the listing. 
Posted by Joseph Skinner - Myrtle Beach Real Estate (Skinner & Associates Realty) over 4 years ago
THIS IS A RUDE POSTING BUT I AM SURE THIS PERSON HAS HAD TONS OF CALLS FROM AGENTS TRYING TO ACQUIRE A LISTING.  I AM NOT SURE IF THE PERSON REALLY HATES AGENTS, JUST HAS THE MISCONCEPTION THAT THEY KNOW AS MUCH OR MORE THAN WE DO AS PROFESSIONALS AND WILL EVENTUALLY FIND OUT THEY DON'T.  GLAD TO SEE THAT IT HAS BEEN FLAGGED FOR REMOVAL. 
Posted by Sandra Paulow, Associate Broker, GRI, REALTOR (Russ Lyon Sotheby's International Realty) over 4 years ago
I would be beyond shocked if she ever slod that house.  After reading the first couple of paragraphs of her ranting and raving I lost all interest in the property.  She may not even realize she is shooting herself in her own foot.  I really would be curois to see just how long it takes to sell tht proeprty.
Posted by Lawrence Bland, Nextage Realty over 4 years ago
That is hilarious! She has issues. I agree with the post regarding her cutting her chances of attracting real buyers. You would think if she had friends/family that were agents they should have advised her not to do that. If I were a buyer I would not respond to that ad. She has some major issues. But at least we all got amusement out of it. I sent it to my broker and other agents just for a laugh.
Posted by Jennifer Harris (Keller Williams Realty-Madison) over 4 years ago
Can't imagine what I could say at this point that 122 other comments have'nt said. They were obviously venting. However it was in the wrong area.
Posted by Rob Baldwin, Santa Clarita REALTOR® (US ECO-GREEN REAL ESTATE INC.) over 4 years ago

I think the real problem in our profession is that their are plenty of agent out there who believe "NO" means "Push me around until I give in". I will not name which companies teach hard sale submission tactics.....their motto is "You deserve to get paid at ANY COST". I have worked for companies that teach you scripts--- and unfortunately - they are all the same. So imagine - getting 20 call with 20 different agents all giving you the SAME SCRIPT....did anyone really stop and ask what the SELLER wanted or needed....it is obvious - a buyer. The only question needed to ask would be - what is the Co-oP, and possibly - if I bring you the buyer, and you buy another property can I represent you....?? Nothing more.

Most FSBOs are A types  They do not want someone telling them they can't do it on their own. You will only get resistance from them. Just give them what they want - and maybe they will consider you for being so accomodating.

Hope this helps. Great post!!

Alex and Nikki Aguire

Posted by Nikki Aguirre (Realty Source | Murrieta Realtors) over 4 years ago
Has anyone else noticed that the WestsideRentals.com signs that I see EVERYWHERE have changed recently?  Now I see little bulls-eyes whenever I drive around.  Kinda nice.
Posted by mike over 4 years ago
i would wonder whats wrong with the house there!!! as well.
Posted by Brian Bender {Your 24 Hour Realtor!!} (Keller Williams Advantage Realty) over 4 years ago

The link to craigslist has been flagged for removal. I have found that are things that one can not change. Often there is a preconceived opinion that is already negativity which is beyond our control. Stay positive and hope for room for growth.

Bonner

Posted by Bonner Thomason CRS, ABR, GRI, e-Pro (Keller Williams Realty) over 4 years ago
i think that some agents just don't get it when it says NO REALTORS
Posted by Andres Munar, Your 24/7 Loan Officer, Mortgages in State College&All 50 States (Semper Home Loans ) over 4 years ago

"i think that some agents just don't get it when it says NO REALTORS"

Yes, Andres, it's a bit like all of the mortgage "consultants" that insist they can give a better deal, and better rates, to people that tell them they already have a lender, isn't it?

Posted by Michael Creel (InActive Agent) over 4 years ago
I've never asked FSBOs for the listing, I've simply asked if I may pre-view their property, so I may include it in the list of available homes in my community to present to my buyers. I ask for permission to take photos and add them to my FSBO book. I offer something of value to the seller - a staging tip, for example, just to get them to warm up to me, and thank them for their time.
I stay in touch, usually via personal notes, and show the home if it meets my buyers criteria. I then share any comments...the point is, I don't treat them like the enemy, and therefore I am treated like the professional I am.
I often earn the listing. It's always the seller's idea :)
This Craigslist posting was kinda sad - she needed to vent, and did - but if I was a buyer I'd be afraid to call her. 
Maybe we should all chip in for a massage for her - to help her RELAX - with a note that says  "sorry we've all rubbed you the wrong way!"
Posted by delete delete (delete) over 4 years ago
This is why I don't really care for FSBOs - they have already made it clear that they don't want an agent.  In this case, quite frankly I didn't think the ad was that bad.  The FSBO was saying that he/she would be glad to offer a commission to any agent calling on behalf of a client - just not solicitations for a listing agent.
Posted by Brian Schulman - Your Lancaster County, PA Real Estate Expert (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals, Lancaster PA) over 4 years ago

This person needs to have a little less coffee and enjoy life,

 my opinion is that there is such a low barrier to entry into our profession, many enter into it not understanding that they shouldn't and when they do something wrong we all get painted with the same brush.

Posted by Andrew Monaghan CRS, GRI, EPro Associate Broker (Keller Williams Professional Partners) over 4 years ago
If that person ever had a major issue in life, things like this wouldn't take precedence.  It doesn't get much ruder than that.
Posted by Diane Bell, Hilton Head Real Estate, Bluffton (Charter 1 Real Estate, Hilton Head, Bluffton, SC) over 4 years ago

 

Jonelle,

As you know, Obeo does not sell its services to FSBOs, unlike many other on line marketing providers.

I do not think people hate Realtors; they just have not figured out why a Realtor is important to any home sale.

You do have to tip you hat to the Realtors that did call this person or any FSBO, though...that is working a tough market!

 

Blog On,

Steve

http://obeoman.blogspot.com

Posted by Obeoman Glade Jones (www.obeo.com) over 4 years ago

Jonelle,

I actuslly just pulled up the link and it looks like it is being flagged for deletion.  I guess the bottom-line is you will allways have people in every industry making it harder for the rest. 

Posted by Bradley Kress, Certified Staging Professional (Re Stage to Sell) over 4 years ago
i had a call this week on 1 of my spec houses.. and after giving more information than needed, the husband got on the phone and said he bought alot of homes and didnt want to deal with the realtor,or buyers agent.., but only wanted to work with the builder!!!  i said to him , that there is not a speck house or piece of ground that is not attached to A REALTOR in this area,, i dont know other state laws ,but doesnt he have to have a buyers agent agreement signed by a realtor in order to write a contract to purchase..??....  i wanted to giggle............>>>>>>>>>smiles  
Posted by Brian Bender {Your 24 Hour Realtor!!} (Keller Williams Advantage Realty) over 4 years ago

So i read the ad in question, which I thought was rather decently done (i've seen a lot worse in the MLS descriptions in my recent home browsings)... I guess I am at a complete loss over the good majority of the comments here.... The range of sarcastic to downright rude to this seller, and her property, and all this gloating that the ad was removed... What the hell is wrong with the 100 or so of these freaking realtors on this board who commented on this? Just how deaf and blind are you where a simple request to respect someone's wishes to privacy are completely ignored? I tell you what, if I were her after this treatment, i would think that realtors are the scummiest of scum... No means no, and yes, it is violation of this person's emotional space when that request is not granted. If i was pestered to this degree - by any 'so called professional' with the world owes me a conversation attitude - i'd lose it on the whole bloody profession.

Posted by Inna Hardison- HaMedia Group Wordpress for Real Estate &Design,Print (ha media group) over 4 years ago

I love this post.   This is one seriously ticked off person.  I have a feeling that some of the 20 agents who called her are somewhat responsible for her wrath.

I do think that this seller would be smarter to reject offers of service in a less nasty manner.  In this very competitive market, agents have a lot of choices, and we do look to listed homes first.  

If I had a buyer who might like her home, I'd wonder what she would be like in negotiating and I might put her at the bottom of a very long list of listings.     

Posted by Pat Emmett (Prudential Palms Realty) over 4 years ago
The post was taken down...would you mind doing a follow up with it's content?
Posted by Tiffany Norton (Northern Lights Broadcasting) over 4 years ago

One reason I think the public hate us is something we over promise and under deliever.  The public don't like that.

Posted by Marvin Thomas (Allegiance Mortgage Corparation) over 4 years ago

In every industry there are folks that don't do a good job.  The challenge we face is to offer value to the customer.  Once we do that, we establish a level of respect for ourselves and our occupation.  Forget about the folks that are bitter towards realtors and focus on who you can help and everything will take care of itself.

 

Steve Keefe

Posted by Coldwell Banker Sky Ridge Realty over 4 years ago
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Posted by Anonymous about 4 years ago
Either she is on drugs or needs to be...
Posted by MARY LOU TEAGUE HOME STYLE AND STAGING KNOXVILLE, TN (HOME STYLE AND STAGING LLC ) about 4 years ago
Just a pathetic attempt at free advertising.
Posted by Mike Creel about 4 years ago
I'd be angry too if agents can't read and/or comprehend instructions.  I don't think there's a real question as to why people hate agents, you're post just answered that. 
Posted by Guy E. Gimenez ABR, CRS, GRI - Broker - Austin Texas Homes (512-731-5613) (The PowerHouse Group) about 4 years ago

Who don't people hate?There are people that think doctors are absurdly overpaid, lawyers are evil liars, politicians are crooks, movie stars are overpaid and immoral, accountants are boring, Americans are infidels, football stars are overpaid and stupid, and the police plant evidence to frame people.

You simply can't please all the people all the time, so no reason to worry over it.

I can't imagine someones life being so empty that their heart is filled with contempt for real estate agents, of all people.

Posted by Michael Creel (InActive Agent) about 4 years ago

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Posted by james.martin almost 4 years ago

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Posted by mart almost 4 years ago
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Posted by Former Client almost 4 years ago

I guess I won't call her to see if I can get the listing.  Are listing that valuable right now?  I  would rather work with a buyer.

Posted by Robert Machado, CPM MPM Sacramento Area Property Manager and Property Management (HomePointe Property Management, CRMC) almost 4 years ago

run run....now. Not worth it? huh

Posted by Jack Climer Realty, LLC almost 4 years ago

Jonelle: WoW.. was this guy ticked off or what... Sounds like a bad day for this guy

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Posted by ridwanzero over 2 years ago

There are way too many people out there that still have a misconception on how much time and energy goes into being successful and how we are constantly on a roller coaster ride.  I don't think John Q. Public will ever understand unless they have been there and done that.

Posted by Don Spera, Serving York and Adams County, PA (CR Property Group, LLC) almost 2 years ago

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